1 00:00:16,030 --> 00:00:14,870 [Music] 2 00:00:38,470 --> 00:00:16,040 my 3 00:00:42,950 --> 00:00:40,869 hey everybody how's it going thank you 4 00:00:45,430 --> 00:00:42,960 so much for joining me 5 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:45,440 i am just checking a couple of settings 6 00:00:48,950 --> 00:00:46,640 because i've had a little bit of a 7 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:48,960 technical issue with my internet stream 8 00:00:52,310 --> 00:00:51,280 tonight but everything's looking good 9 00:00:55,990 --> 00:00:52,320 um 10 00:00:58,069 --> 00:00:56,000 let's not waste any more time 11 00:01:00,630 --> 00:00:58,079 let's bring in 12 00:01:02,869 --> 00:01:00,640 your friend and my friend 13 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:02,879 mr lua elizondo 14 00:01:07,270 --> 00:01:05,040 hey vinnie how are you i'm good lou how 15 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:07,280 are you man i'm doing quite well uh 16 00:01:13,109 --> 00:01:09,840 apologies for keeping you all up so late 17 00:01:14,630 --> 00:01:13,119 uh i'm so good colorado springs this 18 00:01:16,469 --> 00:01:14,640 week uh doing some work and 19 00:01:19,109 --> 00:01:16,479 unfortunately my my time schedule is 20 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:19,119 extremely compressed and it is not mine 21 00:01:22,630 --> 00:01:20,400 so uh 22 00:01:24,870 --> 00:01:22,640 sincere and humble apologies to to you 23 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:24,880 and and uh your wonderful audience but 24 00:01:28,950 --> 00:01:27,040 uh great to see you again 25 00:01:31,030 --> 00:01:28,960 hey it's so good that you could take the 26 00:01:32,870 --> 00:01:31,040 time out and come back and 27 00:01:34,550 --> 00:01:32,880 i think we fixed the technical issues 28 00:01:36,390 --> 00:01:34,560 that we had last time as far as sharing 29 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:36,400 screens and all that stuff 30 00:01:38,710 --> 00:01:37,360 thank you 31 00:01:40,469 --> 00:01:38,720 i've never been very technically 32 00:01:42,069 --> 00:01:40,479 proficient so i i well 33 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:42,079 thanks to me you just we just spent the 34 00:01:45,109 --> 00:01:43,920 last 10 minutes i just sat here and 35 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:45,119 watched you 36 00:01:48,389 --> 00:01:47,360 work away and do it so no thank you so 37 00:01:50,389 --> 00:01:48,399 much man 38 00:01:52,149 --> 00:01:50,399 um thank you to everybody in the live 39 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:52,159 chat here right now i really appreciate 40 00:01:56,709 --> 00:01:54,960 you all being here um i have i'm just 41 00:01:58,709 --> 00:01:56,719 gonna state i have turned off super chat 42 00:02:00,630 --> 00:01:58,719 because this is a presentation by lou 43 00:02:02,630 --> 00:02:00,640 this isn't like a massive ama ask 44 00:02:04,870 --> 00:02:02,640 anything and all that so just wanted to 45 00:02:05,990 --> 00:02:04,880 put that out there um 46 00:02:09,029 --> 00:02:06,000 so yeah 47 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:09,039 here we are lou how's colorado treating 48 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:11,760 you man uh today's beautiful uh i had a 49 00:02:16,550 --> 00:02:14,640 hell of a drive coming in uh 50 00:02:18,309 --> 00:02:16,560 yesterday uh through they had shut down 51 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:18,319 the highway so i was coming down highway 52 00:02:20,830 --> 00:02:19,440 25 53 00:02:24,229 --> 00:02:20,840 and fortunately i have 54 00:02:25,990 --> 00:02:24,239 a my truck is you know 55 00:02:27,910 --> 00:02:26,000 jacked up a little bit so i have the 56 00:02:31,910 --> 00:02:27,920 driving driving 57 00:02:34,710 --> 00:02:31,920 what is it uh it's a uh it's a uh a ram 58 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:34,720 uh with uh four wheel drive with uh with 59 00:02:39,589 --> 00:02:37,760 with dodge cummins uh motor um 60 00:02:41,430 --> 00:02:39,599 so most people know me gear head so yeah 61 00:02:43,110 --> 00:02:41,440 she's a bit of a beast uh you know 62 00:02:46,790 --> 00:02:43,120 definitely go anywhere anytime type 63 00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:46,800 vehicle a bit of a zombie apocalypse 64 00:02:50,710 --> 00:02:49,120 type truck and you know she actually uh 65 00:02:52,630 --> 00:02:50,720 normally she's a parking lot princess 66 00:02:55,030 --> 00:02:52,640 but uh but yesterday she was a workhorse 67 00:02:56,949 --> 00:02:55,040 she uh she did be good 68 00:02:59,110 --> 00:02:56,959 appreciate it man that sounds awesome 69 00:03:00,550 --> 00:02:59,120 man so um 70 00:03:02,630 --> 00:03:00,560 listen we know why we're here i think 71 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:02,640 everybody's really eager 72 00:03:07,670 --> 00:03:04,800 because we we've we've touched upon this 73 00:03:09,270 --> 00:03:07,680 ai that has been mentioned 74 00:03:10,710 --> 00:03:09,280 for quite some time now 75 00:03:12,390 --> 00:03:10,720 yeah well i was going to initially talk 76 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:12,400 to you about the ai and i'm going to but 77 00:03:15,910 --> 00:03:14,400 but i think you know what since i put 78 00:03:17,670 --> 00:03:15,920 you guys off for about a week or two on 79 00:03:19,270 --> 00:03:17,680 this and it wasn't intentional but you 80 00:03:20,869 --> 00:03:19,280 know let me give you let me give you the 81 00:03:22,309 --> 00:03:20,879 full presentation if that's okay and i'm 82 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:22,319 going to go a little faster than i 83 00:03:27,589 --> 00:03:24,560 normally do this is a presentation that 84 00:03:29,110 --> 00:03:27,599 has been provided to some some some 85 00:03:31,910 --> 00:03:29,120 fairly senior people 86 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:31,920 uh and i think hopefully it'll kind of 87 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:35,760 give a broad perspective of of you know 88 00:03:39,430 --> 00:03:37,519 what are we doing how are we doing it 89 00:03:41,670 --> 00:03:39,440 you know what have where have we gone 90 00:03:42,710 --> 00:03:41,680 where are we now and where are we going 91 00:03:43,509 --> 00:03:42,720 yeah so i'm going to go ahead and share 92 00:03:45,430 --> 00:03:43,519 if you don't mind i'm just going to 93 00:03:46,710 --> 00:03:45,440 share the screen now 94 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:46,720 screen 95 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:49,440 uh forgive me folks if i uh do something 96 00:03:53,350 --> 00:03:51,120 wrong here can you 97 00:03:55,350 --> 00:03:53,360 i can see it man we're ready to roll 98 00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:55,360 right here we go now first of all folks 99 00:03:58,789 --> 00:03:57,120 i know people are going to go ahead and 100 00:04:01,589 --> 00:03:58,799 pick apart this 101 00:04:03,670 --> 00:04:01,599 thing um but uh just know that this is 102 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:03,680 for really the purpose of this briefing 103 00:04:07,910 --> 00:04:06,000 is to to elicit conversation just get 104 00:04:09,589 --> 00:04:07,920 people talking and understanding the 105 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:09,599 methodologies and kind of take away the 106 00:04:12,869 --> 00:04:11,680 mystery of of how we've been doing 107 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:12,879 things so 108 00:04:16,789 --> 00:04:14,080 there's really i've talked about the 109 00:04:18,550 --> 00:04:16,799 five pillars of uap engagement and very 110 00:04:19,670 --> 00:04:18,560 much like this picture here um you know 111 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:19,680 when you're when you're building these 112 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:21,359 pillars you really want to be consistent 113 00:04:24,870 --> 00:04:23,440 and build them roughly at the same rate 114 00:04:26,469 --> 00:04:24,880 and the same time 115 00:04:28,629 --> 00:04:26,479 because if one pillar gets higher than 116 00:04:31,350 --> 00:04:28,639 another then you wind up having a 117 00:04:34,310 --> 00:04:31,360 crooked roof so we really have have been 118 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:34,320 very um diligent in making sure that 119 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:37,120 these these five pillars all rise 120 00:04:39,909 --> 00:04:38,320 collectively together and by the way 121 00:04:41,670 --> 00:04:39,919 there may be other pillars as we as we 122 00:04:44,469 --> 00:04:41,680 move into the future 123 00:04:47,350 --> 00:04:44,479 so i have this slide up here um just to 124 00:04:49,670 --> 00:04:47,360 provoke conversation um what i usually 125 00:04:51,270 --> 00:04:49,680 tell folks is uh let me see if i can 126 00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:51,280 hide this give me one second does that 127 00:04:55,590 --> 00:04:53,600 work nope i'm sorry guys let's try that 128 00:04:57,670 --> 00:04:55,600 again that's so good 129 00:04:58,950 --> 00:04:57,680 just don't show your calendar 130 00:05:00,150 --> 00:04:58,960 yeah 131 00:05:01,990 --> 00:05:00,160 so you know the question always 132 00:05:03,990 --> 00:05:02,000 everybody asks right you know what is 133 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:04,000 disclosure and i think uh it's important 134 00:05:07,189 --> 00:05:05,440 in order for us to have a conversation 135 00:05:08,870 --> 00:05:07,199 we really all need to come to agreement 136 00:05:10,790 --> 00:05:08,880 of what it means now this is a 137 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:10,800 definition um 138 00:05:15,110 --> 00:05:13,360 and uh that that i was able to find the 139 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:15,120 action of making new or secret 140 00:05:20,070 --> 00:05:18,000 information known um you know pretty 141 00:05:21,270 --> 00:05:20,080 pretty simple actually um not not too 142 00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:21,280 complicated 143 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:22,880 and we'll get back to that question so 144 00:05:26,230 --> 00:05:24,720 the pillar one is the first pillar of 145 00:05:27,670 --> 00:05:26,240 engagement is legislative engagement 146 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:27,680 here in our country we have three 147 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:30,080 branches of government um 148 00:05:33,270 --> 00:05:31,840 there is the legislative branch the 149 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:33,280 executive branch and then there is the 150 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:36,000 judicial branch 151 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:38,720 we chose alleged legislative branch for 152 00:05:41,749 --> 00:05:40,320 a reason because these are the folks 153 00:05:43,909 --> 00:05:41,759 that set the laws of the land and 154 00:05:45,430 --> 00:05:43,919 they're also the ones that that fund the 155 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:45,440 government they're the ones who who set 156 00:05:49,510 --> 00:05:47,680 the budgets so it's important that as we 157 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:49,520 ensure we speak 158 00:05:54,070 --> 00:05:51,360 about this topic that we engage our 159 00:05:55,590 --> 00:05:54,080 lawmakers now let me just preface we're 160 00:05:57,270 --> 00:05:55,600 not um 161 00:05:58,629 --> 00:05:57,280 we're not lobbying people say oh you're 162 00:06:00,870 --> 00:05:58,639 lobbying you're lobbyists no we're not 163 00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:00,880 we're not asking for a cent not one red 164 00:06:04,309 --> 00:06:02,720 penny what we're doing is just making 165 00:06:07,510 --> 00:06:04,319 sure that congress members of congress 166 00:06:09,749 --> 00:06:07,520 are informed so you see here some of the 167 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:09,759 advantages why we do what we do ensuring 168 00:06:13,510 --> 00:06:11,280 lawmakers in the u.s are providing 169 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:13,520 relevant accurate uap information by 170 00:06:18,150 --> 00:06:15,440 qualified experts what's a qualified 171 00:06:19,590 --> 00:06:18,160 expert now this is not intended to to 172 00:06:21,189 --> 00:06:19,600 hurt anybody's feelings but in 173 00:06:23,110 --> 00:06:21,199 government terms it's people who hold a 174 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:23,120 security clearance who have a very 175 00:06:28,230 --> 00:06:26,560 specific job um and and and they are a 176 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:28,240 qualified expert in their field so 177 00:06:33,749 --> 00:06:31,199 whether it's missile telemetry or radar 178 00:06:36,390 --> 00:06:33,759 exploitation or you know fill in the 179 00:06:38,550 --> 00:06:36,400 blank um that is a qualified expert it's 180 00:06:41,270 --> 00:06:38,560 not hobbyist it's not a ufologist it's 181 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:41,280 it's it's really a someone who has been 182 00:06:44,469 --> 00:06:42,720 is getting paid by the us government to 183 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:44,479 do a very specific job i know some 184 00:06:47,909 --> 00:06:45,600 people are going to argue that and say 185 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:47,919 well but that's not really a qualified 186 00:06:50,629 --> 00:06:49,120 expert well 187 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:50,639 but it isn't government terms i'm not 188 00:06:53,510 --> 00:06:52,080 saying it is from from a universal 189 00:06:55,189 --> 00:06:53,520 perspective simply from a from a 190 00:06:56,950 --> 00:06:55,199 governmental perspective 191 00:06:59,029 --> 00:06:56,960 um and so we make sure that those 192 00:07:00,790 --> 00:06:59,039 briefings uh you know we facilitate 193 00:07:03,350 --> 00:07:00,800 those briefings so they can occur we 194 00:07:05,589 --> 00:07:03,360 also it also it facilitates educated 195 00:07:07,189 --> 00:07:05,599 decisions to properly fund uap efforts 196 00:07:09,510 --> 00:07:07,199 within the us government and so you see 197 00:07:11,350 --> 00:07:09,520 here annual budget cycles mip and nip 198 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:11,360 stand for military intelligence program 199 00:07:16,710 --> 00:07:13,440 and nip stands for national intelligence 200 00:07:18,629 --> 00:07:16,720 program making sure that congress knows 201 00:07:20,550 --> 00:07:18,639 uh that if you want to help out that's 202 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:20,560 where you put some of the money so now 203 00:07:24,629 --> 00:07:22,720 you can get the intelligence community 204 00:07:25,589 --> 00:07:24,639 engaged to start actually looking at 205 00:07:28,150 --> 00:07:25,599 this pro 206 00:07:30,629 --> 00:07:28,160 pro this this this effort if you will 207 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:30,639 this this this problem collectively it 208 00:07:35,430 --> 00:07:32,160 also allows for better oversight and 209 00:07:36,629 --> 00:07:35,440 decreases excessive excessive secrecy so 210 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:36,639 congress says you know what i want a 211 00:07:40,150 --> 00:07:39,039 180-day report so they get 188 report 212 00:07:42,469 --> 00:07:40,160 they said hey that's great but now i 213 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:42,479 want a 90-day report and oh by the way i 214 00:07:47,270 --> 00:07:43,360 want 215 00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:47,280 defense every year right so 216 00:07:50,869 --> 00:07:49,440 it becomes a snowball effect and you see 217 00:07:52,070 --> 00:07:50,879 here the the senate select committee on 218 00:07:53,909 --> 00:07:52,080 intelligence and the senate armed 219 00:07:55,510 --> 00:07:53,919 services committee it also permits 220 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:55,520 dialogue between constituents and 221 00:08:00,070 --> 00:07:58,000 elected officials so now when a 222 00:08:01,589 --> 00:08:00,080 constituent calls and said says to their 223 00:08:03,189 --> 00:08:01,599 elected official have you been briefed 224 00:08:04,710 --> 00:08:03,199 they can say yes and you know what 225 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:04,720 you're right this is an important topic 226 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:06,080 for us and it's an important topic for 227 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:08,400 our district or or our state 228 00:08:12,790 --> 00:08:10,000 it also promotes media acceptance 229 00:08:14,550 --> 00:08:12,800 because now the media feels enjoying to 230 00:08:16,309 --> 00:08:14,560 actually ask the question that they 231 00:08:18,309 --> 00:08:16,319 never wanted to ask before and that is 232 00:08:21,430 --> 00:08:18,319 asking our members of congress what do 233 00:08:23,909 --> 00:08:21,440 you think about ufos right and then of 234 00:08:25,670 --> 00:08:23,919 course it enables international dialogue 235 00:08:27,270 --> 00:08:25,680 with other governments specifically 236 00:08:28,950 --> 00:08:27,280 through their legislative processes so 237 00:08:31,270 --> 00:08:28,960 their congresses their parliaments 238 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:31,280 committees et cetera so 239 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:33,200 uh these are just some of the the 240 00:08:38,949 --> 00:08:36,719 reasons why pillar one is so important 241 00:08:40,389 --> 00:08:38,959 yeah 242 00:08:42,149 --> 00:08:40,399 sorry i'm just going to say that last 243 00:08:43,829 --> 00:08:42,159 point on pillar one with 244 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:43,839 um other governments i mean it does 245 00:08:48,150 --> 00:08:46,240 every time every time that stands out i 246 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:48,160 think about the uk though how we still 247 00:08:53,990 --> 00:08:50,160 seem to be falling behind 248 00:08:56,790 --> 00:08:54,000 well you know i i i get it uh you know i 249 00:08:58,150 --> 00:08:56,800 we have to have patience though 250 00:08:59,990 --> 00:08:58,160 we we have to 251 00:09:02,150 --> 00:09:00,000 you you can lead a horse to water right 252 00:09:03,990 --> 00:09:02,160 but you can't make a drink absolutely so 253 00:09:06,470 --> 00:09:04,000 we have to you know just continue be 254 00:09:08,550 --> 00:09:06,480 persistent uh and be be 255 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:08,560 fair-minded and rational about this 256 00:09:14,870 --> 00:09:11,760 topic i think you know i think uh 257 00:09:16,470 --> 00:09:14,880 i think ultimately logic will prevail 258 00:09:18,389 --> 00:09:16,480 the next pillar is executive level 259 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:18,399 engagement and this is ensuring this 260 00:09:23,269 --> 00:09:20,320 helps ensure that the bureaucracy who is 261 00:09:24,630 --> 00:09:23,279 designed to execute the will of congress 262 00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:24,640 can do so 263 00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:26,480 and they understand what the what those 264 00:09:30,949 --> 00:09:29,279 wants of congress are and then basically 265 00:09:32,790 --> 00:09:30,959 provide deliverables 266 00:09:34,470 --> 00:09:32,800 it also allows for the defense and the 267 00:09:36,870 --> 00:09:34,480 intelligence communities to prioritize 268 00:09:38,630 --> 00:09:36,880 uap data collection now by the way 269 00:09:40,230 --> 00:09:38,640 as you see it's no longer just going to 270 00:09:41,910 --> 00:09:40,240 be defense and intelligence communities 271 00:09:43,910 --> 00:09:41,920 we're beginning to open the aperture but 272 00:09:45,269 --> 00:09:43,920 that's that's where we've been focusing 273 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:45,279 on for the last three and a half years 274 00:09:48,870 --> 00:09:46,560 and as you see as a result of that you 275 00:09:51,110 --> 00:09:48,880 have a deputy secretary of defense memo 276 00:09:53,910 --> 00:09:51,120 creating a strategic plan literally on 277 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:53,920 the heels of the 180-day report 278 00:09:59,190 --> 00:09:56,560 but it also enables intra and inter 279 00:10:01,269 --> 00:09:59,200 government efforts to be coordinated so 280 00:10:02,630 --> 00:10:01,279 it's not just across federal agencies 281 00:10:04,470 --> 00:10:02,640 but it's also 282 00:10:06,389 --> 00:10:04,480 up and down and it also includes 283 00:10:08,310 --> 00:10:06,399 organizations not typically maybe 284 00:10:10,389 --> 00:10:08,320 included in the uap conversation like 285 00:10:16,069 --> 00:10:10,399 department of energy like nasa 286 00:10:17,670 --> 00:10:16,079 potentially like faa um so dhs dhs noah 287 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:17,680 excellent you're right you must have 288 00:10:25,430 --> 00:10:23,990 it also encourages resources and time 289 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:25,440 investment 290 00:10:31,269 --> 00:10:27,600 uh because now they know that the will 291 00:10:33,509 --> 00:10:31,279 of congress is such and therefore uh you 292 00:10:35,110 --> 00:10:33,519 know the the the executive 293 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:35,120 department could say okay we're going to 294 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:36,880 take this seriously it also helps 295 00:10:41,430 --> 00:10:39,120 eliminate stove pipes of previous uap 296 00:10:43,990 --> 00:10:41,440 efforts so for example like the uap task 297 00:10:45,110 --> 00:10:44,000 force an atip my program and even asap 298 00:10:47,269 --> 00:10:45,120 to some degree 299 00:10:49,110 --> 00:10:47,279 uh really suffered from stovepipes you 300 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:49,120 had this office i was squirrel away 301 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:51,120 under a directorate that was squirreled 302 00:10:54,949 --> 00:10:53,200 away under an undersecretary that was 303 00:10:57,110 --> 00:10:54,959 squirrel away under a department under 304 00:10:58,389 --> 00:10:57,120 squirrel right and so 305 00:11:00,550 --> 00:10:58,399 none of these organizations really 306 00:11:02,069 --> 00:11:00,560 shared information uh very well with 307 00:11:04,550 --> 00:11:02,079 each other and 308 00:11:06,069 --> 00:11:04,560 there wasn't any senior level oversight 309 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:06,079 now it says you see this last poll here 310 00:11:08,870 --> 00:11:07,760 ensures proper oversight of uap 311 00:11:11,110 --> 00:11:08,880 activities 312 00:11:12,790 --> 00:11:11,120 now you have the director of national 313 00:11:15,430 --> 00:11:12,800 intelligence and the secretary of 314 00:11:18,470 --> 00:11:15,440 defense directly now involved in on the 315 00:11:20,389 --> 00:11:18,480 line of responsibility for this topic so 316 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:20,399 executive level engagement is important 317 00:11:24,150 --> 00:11:22,800 the next is international engagement 318 00:11:25,910 --> 00:11:24,160 and this is something near and dear i 319 00:11:28,790 --> 00:11:25,920 think to all of our hearts but this 320 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:28,800 helps us synchronize us efforts with 321 00:11:33,670 --> 00:11:31,440 other nations japan is an example where 322 00:11:35,509 --> 00:11:33,680 about nine months ago they came out and 323 00:11:36,949 --> 00:11:35,519 they said we'd like to enter into a 324 00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:36,959 bilateral information sharing 325 00:11:40,470 --> 00:11:38,240 relationship with the united states 326 00:11:41,990 --> 00:11:40,480 regarding ufos uap 327 00:11:43,910 --> 00:11:42,000 there's other countries as well but they 328 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:43,920 haven't won they don't want to go public 329 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:46,000 yet so you don't see them in this slide 330 00:11:48,630 --> 00:11:47,440 so it also helps establish new 331 00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:48,640 opportunities for intelligence 332 00:11:52,550 --> 00:11:50,880 information sharing of uap data not 333 00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:52,560 necessarily with other countries but 334 00:11:57,430 --> 00:11:55,600 international organizations such as nato 335 00:11:58,949 --> 00:11:57,440 and the united nations our five-i 336 00:12:01,110 --> 00:11:58,959 relationship that we cherish so much 337 00:12:03,110 --> 00:12:01,120 with the uk and australia and 338 00:12:05,110 --> 00:12:03,120 canada and some of these other countries 339 00:12:07,430 --> 00:12:05,120 it also removes individual burdens of a 340 00:12:09,829 --> 00:12:07,440 nation and leverages partnerships to 341 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:09,839 share the responsibility right so what i 342 00:12:13,110 --> 00:12:11,440 mean by that it's no longer one country 343 00:12:14,790 --> 00:12:13,120 having to pay the bill for all of this 344 00:12:17,030 --> 00:12:14,800 we can all kind of pool our resources 345 00:12:19,190 --> 00:12:17,040 together so norad is an example where 346 00:12:21,269 --> 00:12:19,200 you have a u.s commander but you the 347 00:12:23,269 --> 00:12:21,279 deputy commander is canadian 348 00:12:24,470 --> 00:12:23,279 and so you know when you bring the uap 349 00:12:26,870 --> 00:12:24,480 topic to them 350 00:12:29,590 --> 00:12:26,880 uh now it's really more of an 351 00:12:31,990 --> 00:12:29,600 international approach not just a us or 352 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:32,000 one country approach but also equally 353 00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:33,680 important it minimizes one nation's 354 00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:35,120 ability to control the narrative we've 355 00:12:38,389 --> 00:12:36,800 seen what happens in the last 70 years 356 00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:38,399 when we allow one country to control the 357 00:12:42,550 --> 00:12:40,320 narrative uh and 358 00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:42,560 in essence not a whole lot gets done so 359 00:12:46,629 --> 00:12:44,720 uh really this is very important when 360 00:12:48,949 --> 00:12:46,639 you have an international uh 361 00:12:50,550 --> 00:12:48,959 conversation then you truly have a a 362 00:12:52,310 --> 00:12:50,560 collective conversation it's not just 363 00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:52,320 one country that's that's managing the 364 00:12:55,829 --> 00:12:54,480 the narrative it also encourages joint 365 00:12:57,430 --> 00:12:55,839 research and development efforts and 366 00:12:59,430 --> 00:12:57,440 increased collaboration which is very 367 00:13:00,790 --> 00:12:59,440 important and helps maintain a common 368 00:13:03,350 --> 00:13:00,800 operating picture that's kind of a 369 00:13:04,949 --> 00:13:03,360 military term if you will uh of of the 370 00:13:06,389 --> 00:13:04,959 situation while minimizing this 371 00:13:08,389 --> 00:13:06,399 understanding of adversarial 372 00:13:10,470 --> 00:13:08,399 provocations now 373 00:13:12,629 --> 00:13:10,480 we know that these uaps have interfered 374 00:13:14,870 --> 00:13:12,639 with u.s nuclear capabilities and also 375 00:13:17,030 --> 00:13:14,880 russian nuclear capabilities what most 376 00:13:19,269 --> 00:13:17,040 people may not know maybe some do is 377 00:13:20,470 --> 00:13:19,279 that we actually have a communication 378 00:13:23,670 --> 00:13:20,480 with russia 379 00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:23,680 over the the northern part of uh of the 380 00:13:28,550 --> 00:13:26,000 uh uh well of our of our globe our 381 00:13:30,790 --> 00:13:28,560 planet and because when you launch 382 00:13:32,150 --> 00:13:30,800 nuclear missiles you're gonna not launch 383 00:13:34,629 --> 00:13:32,160 them the quickest way to get them to 384 00:13:36,949 --> 00:13:34,639 russia and russia to get them to us is 385 00:13:38,710 --> 00:13:36,959 over the north pole and so we have this 386 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:38,720 agreement that if if one of us happens 387 00:13:41,910 --> 00:13:40,240 to see something unusual over the north 388 00:13:43,670 --> 00:13:41,920 pole we can pick up the phone and call 389 00:13:45,189 --> 00:13:43,680 the other and say you know hey boris is 390 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:45,199 that you or they can call us and say you 391 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:47,920 know hey joe is that that you guys or is 392 00:13:51,829 --> 00:13:49,839 this something else now why is that 393 00:13:53,189 --> 00:13:51,839 important because we now know countries 394 00:13:54,629 --> 00:13:53,199 like india and pakistan who aren't 395 00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:54,639 necessarily friendly to each other they 396 00:13:58,310 --> 00:13:56,560 both have nuclear capabilities can you 397 00:14:00,230 --> 00:13:58,320 imagine if a ufo 398 00:14:02,870 --> 00:14:00,240 were to be encountered potentially over 399 00:14:04,230 --> 00:14:02,880 one of their nuclear installations and 400 00:14:06,470 --> 00:14:04,240 it gets confused as some sort of 401 00:14:07,189 --> 00:14:06,480 provocation of war by the other side i 402 00:14:08,230 --> 00:14:07,199 mean 403 00:14:10,710 --> 00:14:08,240 that would be 404 00:14:12,790 --> 00:14:10,720 horrible so so it is important that we 405 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:12,800 we have this international engagement 406 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:15,120 yeah pillar four is uh mainstream media 407 00:14:19,910 --> 00:14:17,600 engagement this is why people see me on 408 00:14:21,350 --> 00:14:19,920 mainstream media a lot 409 00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:21,360 and despite what people think where i 410 00:14:25,910 --> 00:14:23,839 only do you know one type of of media 411 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:25,920 outlet that's not true i've done many 412 00:14:30,150 --> 00:14:28,880 many many outlets on both sides 413 00:14:31,990 --> 00:14:30,160 but why is this important because it 414 00:14:34,069 --> 00:14:32,000 socializes the reality of uap to a much 415 00:14:36,550 --> 00:14:34,079 broader audience 416 00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:36,560 it also helps destigmatize the topic 417 00:14:39,509 --> 00:14:38,000 because now they're they're they're 418 00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:39,519 talking about it and they're reporting 419 00:14:42,310 --> 00:14:40,480 on it 420 00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:42,320 it also further encourages legislative 421 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:44,000 and executive branch involvement because 422 00:14:47,590 --> 00:14:45,600 when the mainstream media starts asking 423 00:14:49,350 --> 00:14:47,600 them hard questions now they want 424 00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:49,360 answers now they're saying you know what 425 00:14:53,829 --> 00:14:51,680 we i can't answer that question but i'm 426 00:14:54,790 --> 00:14:53,839 going to poke somebody who can and we're 427 00:14:57,509 --> 00:14:54,800 going to get back to you with some 428 00:14:59,750 --> 00:14:57,519 answers it also provides data to massive 429 00:15:01,990 --> 00:14:59,760 information consumer base never before 430 00:15:04,550 --> 00:15:02,000 have we been able to take information 431 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:04,560 across the planet so quickly in various 432 00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:06,480 different if you will uh media 433 00:15:10,389 --> 00:15:08,240 aggregators like associated press or 434 00:15:11,430 --> 00:15:10,399 mother jones or comcast where you could 435 00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:11,440 do a 436 00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:13,279 uh podcast today and it winds up being 437 00:15:16,949 --> 00:15:14,800 in a written article tomorrow and then 438 00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:16,959 later on in the broadcast the next day 439 00:15:19,990 --> 00:15:18,160 and it could be virtually around the 440 00:15:22,069 --> 00:15:20,000 planet now with that said there's also 441 00:15:23,509 --> 00:15:22,079 some danger with that right because 442 00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:23,519 there's an old saying that a lie will 443 00:15:26,310 --> 00:15:25,040 travel around the world in the time it 444 00:15:28,949 --> 00:15:26,320 takes for the truth to leave the front 445 00:15:31,030 --> 00:15:28,959 door so there's it's important that we 446 00:15:34,069 --> 00:15:31,040 we be aware of that and only provide 447 00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:34,079 valid accurate uh information 448 00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:35,920 it also creates positive pressure for 449 00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:38,240 scientific and academic communities you 450 00:15:43,110 --> 00:15:40,720 now have academia asking folks like dr 451 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:43,120 avi loeb right hey is this topic 452 00:15:45,990 --> 00:15:44,720 important right this is super super 453 00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:46,000 important it's helpful it gives them an 454 00:15:49,829 --> 00:15:48,000 outlet gives them an ability to have the 455 00:15:51,350 --> 00:15:49,839 conversation it also increases 456 00:15:53,350 --> 00:15:51,360 government transparency as we saw with 457 00:15:54,790 --> 00:15:53,360 the new york times story right for for 458 00:15:57,350 --> 00:15:54,800 years if not decades we've been saying 459 00:15:59,189 --> 00:15:57,360 no no we don't look at ufos oh well 460 00:16:00,470 --> 00:15:59,199 surprise we do actually 461 00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:00,480 and then of course it provides a 462 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:03,040 platform for new theories um because now 463 00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:04,880 people can talk to the media and new 464 00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:06,320 theories and some of them 465 00:16:11,189 --> 00:16:09,360 um you know may not necessarily follow a 466 00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:11,199 line of logic but they're probably worth 467 00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:12,880 listening to anyways 468 00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:14,320 yeah and then pillar five is public 469 00:16:17,670 --> 00:16:15,440 engagement 470 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:17,680 the most important in my opinion um 471 00:16:21,590 --> 00:16:19,440 because it enables the public to take 472 00:16:22,870 --> 00:16:21,600 part of the uap conversation they see 473 00:16:24,550 --> 00:16:22,880 something on the nightly news and now 474 00:16:26,629 --> 00:16:24,560 they're talking about talking about it 475 00:16:28,550 --> 00:16:26,639 around the water cooler maybe around the 476 00:16:30,470 --> 00:16:28,560 dinner table at night 477 00:16:32,629 --> 00:16:30,480 this is important this is this is this 478 00:16:35,269 --> 00:16:32,639 is it also allows for endorsement for 479 00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:35,279 the other four pillars if the people say 480 00:16:39,110 --> 00:16:36,959 this is a topic that's important to them 481 00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:39,120 the media will cover it and our 482 00:16:42,470 --> 00:16:40,959 legislative uh 483 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:42,480 members will will 484 00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:45,680 will will begin to to look at this and 485 00:16:50,949 --> 00:16:48,560 same with our executive branch so public 486 00:16:52,550 --> 00:16:50,959 engagement is is is probably the most 487 00:16:54,310 --> 00:16:52,560 important it also bolsters the ability 488 00:16:56,150 --> 00:16:54,320 to fund and budget uap studies in both 489 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:56,160 government and the private sector 490 00:16:58,870 --> 00:16:57,360 because now people say you know what 491 00:17:00,550 --> 00:16:58,880 this is important and i'm willing to 492 00:17:02,150 --> 00:17:00,560 actually put some money behind this to 493 00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:02,160 for us to try to figure this out one way 494 00:17:05,029 --> 00:17:03,199 or another 495 00:17:07,189 --> 00:17:05,039 it creates a platform for grassroots 496 00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:07,199 enclaves to exist right now you and i 497 00:17:10,789 --> 00:17:09,120 having this conversation this is amazing 498 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:10,799 you know this is twitter and social 499 00:17:13,990 --> 00:17:11,760 media 500 00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:14,000 it facilitates a confederated effort and 501 00:17:17,590 --> 00:17:16,240 data crowdsourcing environment now now 502 00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:17,600 we've got people have cell phones in 503 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:19,280 their hands and youtube is full of 504 00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:20,640 videos that we can all look at and 505 00:17:25,750 --> 00:17:23,360 collaborate and talk about um and then 506 00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:25,760 of course helps create new political 507 00:17:32,310 --> 00:17:29,520 platforms and agendas um disclosure i 508 00:17:34,710 --> 00:17:32,320 think being potentially one of them now 509 00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:34,720 those are the five pillars what have 510 00:17:38,789 --> 00:17:36,880 those what have those five pillars 511 00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:38,799 yielded since 2017. of course a lot of 512 00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:40,240 people say yeah not much has happened 513 00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:41,280 you know in the last three and a half 514 00:17:43,990 --> 00:17:42,559 years well 515 00:17:45,669 --> 00:17:44,000 okay let's go down that rabbit hole for 516 00:17:47,590 --> 00:17:45,679 a minute we have dod admitting the three 517 00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:47,600 videos are real they admit that the 518 00:17:51,029 --> 00:17:49,120 videos depict unidentified aerial 519 00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:51,039 vehicles the department of navy creates 520 00:17:55,350 --> 00:17:53,200 a uap reporting policy and guidelines 521 00:17:57,669 --> 00:17:55,360 and actual reporting guidelines and 522 00:17:59,590 --> 00:17:57,679 policies that get promulgated dod 523 00:18:01,350 --> 00:17:59,600 establishes an official uap task force 524 00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:01,360 under the deputy secretary of defense 525 00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:03,600 directly mainstream media takes notice 526 00:18:07,909 --> 00:18:05,760 and begins to actively report on these 527 00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:07,919 encounters members of congress receive 528 00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:10,000 classified briefings members of congress 529 00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:11,440 have taken lead in advocating for 530 00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:13,440 greater transparency former directors of 531 00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:15,760 national intelligence and cia admit and 532 00:18:19,750 --> 00:18:18,160 are talking about uaps potus receives a 533 00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:19,760 classified briefing 534 00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:21,360 on at least two occasions a president of 535 00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:23,360 the united states president a former 536 00:18:26,549 --> 00:18:24,640 president united states publicly 537 00:18:29,669 --> 00:18:26,559 acknowledges the realities of uaps along 538 00:18:30,950 --> 00:18:29,679 with a two foreign two former presidents 539 00:18:32,630 --> 00:18:30,960 of the united states publicly 540 00:18:34,470 --> 00:18:32,640 acknowledged the reality of uaps 541 00:18:37,029 --> 00:18:34,480 congress mandates 180-day report be 542 00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:37,039 submitted by the dod and dni one of only 543 00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:39,600 144 incidents in that 180-day report 544 00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:42,080 were resolved congress mandates a uap 545 00:18:46,310 --> 00:18:44,640 report every 90 days japan requests a 546 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:46,320 bilateral information sharing group with 547 00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:48,400 the u.s china introduces the five 548 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:50,160 continents initiative and one of the 549 00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:51,600 largest ic collaborative virtual 550 00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:53,600 environments is created to analyze uap 551 00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:56,960 data now that's just since 2017. i would 552 00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:58,480 argue that probably more has been done 553 00:19:02,070 --> 00:19:00,240 in the last three and a half years than 554 00:19:03,430 --> 00:19:02,080 in the last three decades 555 00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:03,440 now by the way when i say that i'm not 556 00:19:07,510 --> 00:19:05,679 taking credit for it a lot of people 557 00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:07,520 were part of this okay but that's 558 00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:09,360 yesterday what about today well here's 559 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:11,360 what's going on today folks senior 560 00:19:15,669 --> 00:19:13,120 academics in the us are involved in the 561 00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:15,679 serious study of uap phenomenon renowned 562 00:19:19,510 --> 00:19:17,200 universities in the u.s are expressing 563 00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:19,520 interest in officially studying uaps 564 00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:22,080 scientific enclaves are being created to 565 00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:23,520 test the physics 566 00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:25,840 scholarship programs focusing on uap 567 00:19:30,070 --> 00:19:27,760 performance are being developed 568 00:19:30,789 --> 00:19:30,080 di well defense intelligence university 569 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:30,799 at 570 00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:35,760 university are accepting thesis on uaps 571 00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:37,440 that's that's remarkable that you have 572 00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:39,280 actually these are these these academic 573 00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:41,200 institutions in our national security 574 00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:43,760 apparatus now accepting thesis on uaps 575 00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:45,520 data from previous u.s projects are 576 00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:47,919 being consolidated under a single entity 577 00:19:52,630 --> 00:19:50,400 u.s navy is filing patents on potential 578 00:19:54,549 --> 00:19:52,640 uap propulsion technology 579 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:54,559 dod is developing a strategic plan to 580 00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:57,039 study uaps for years into the future uap 581 00:20:00,950 --> 00:19:58,960 information is being integrated into u.s 582 00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:00,960 intelligence collection cycle certain 583 00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:02,640 allied nations are expressing interest 584 00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:04,720 in working with the u.s government the 585 00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:07,280 dod ig is conducting an evaluation and 586 00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:09,280 several inquiries into dod's handling of 587 00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:11,280 the uap topic certain members of 588 00:20:14,549 --> 00:20:13,200 congress have expressed desire for 589 00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:14,559 public hearings 590 00:20:18,549 --> 00:20:16,240 study of uaps are being included into 591 00:20:19,830 --> 00:20:18,559 annual budget cycles both mip and nip 592 00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:19,840 former senior members of the 593 00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:21,280 intelligence community are assisting 594 00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:22,799 with u.s government efforts involving 595 00:20:25,110 --> 00:20:24,080 uaps 596 00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:25,120 office of director of national 597 00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:26,640 intelligence office of the secretary of 598 00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:28,799 defense navy spacecom norad and other 599 00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:30,559 elements of the ic are actively working 600 00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:32,320 uap issues and 601 00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:34,159 planning for state local and tribal 602 00:20:39,190 --> 00:20:35,280 authorities 603 00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:39,200 to integrate uap data is underway 604 00:20:44,230 --> 00:20:41,440 that is all what's happening right now 605 00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:44,240 behind the scenes as we speak so if it 606 00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:45,840 wasn't enough the last slide to talk 607 00:20:49,270 --> 00:20:46,960 about what's happened in the last three 608 00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:49,280 and a half years here's what's going on 609 00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:51,440 right now 610 00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:53,440 i'm just going to give you a quick uh 611 00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:54,960 i just want to give a quick shout out 612 00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:56,640 witnesses and gave a super sticker 613 00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:58,080 before thank you so much sean i 614 00:21:02,789 --> 00:21:00,159 appreciate it thomas fester thank you so 615 00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:02,799 much for the super sticker um lu sorry 616 00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:04,320 to interrupt you man let's go on to 617 00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:06,320 phase phase two 618 00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:08,240 yeah so that's all you know that's that 619 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:09,840 and all that is occurring under phase 620 00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:11,039 one 621 00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:13,679 so so we talked about yesterday we 622 00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:14,960 talked a little bit about today but what 623 00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:17,280 about tomorrow right so 624 00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:18,799 fa you're now going to get information 625 00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:20,480 that has not really been publicly shared 626 00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:22,559 very at all really it's only been in one 627 00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:25,039 other public venue that i'm aware of 628 00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,720 but this is what we want to do create a 629 00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:28,320 multi-disciplined environment what does 630 00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:29,760 that mean what does that look like well 631 00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:31,760 it looks something like this 632 00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:33,600 think of a a national or a federal 633 00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:35,679 laboratory and what you now have are 634 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:37,840 each one of these bubbles surrounding it 635 00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:40,320 are are contributing members to this 636 00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:42,320 federal lab construct where you have the 637 00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:44,080 international community right and 638 00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:45,520 countries part of that by the way each 639 00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:46,880 one of these little bullets are just 640 00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:48,640 sub-examples there's many many many many 641 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:50,000 examples each one of these little 642 00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:52,000 bubbles could be a whole briefing on its 643 00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:54,000 own you have the academic community you 644 00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:55,360 have the scientific community and 645 00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:56,960 technology community you have the yes 646 00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:58,400 even the private sector 647 00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:00,159 intelligence community defense community 648 00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:02,320 and even the interagencies all working 649 00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:05,600 together to try to to understand this 650 00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:09,039 phenomenon with their respective um 651 00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:10,640 expertise so 652 00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,480 let's take for example when someone asks 653 00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:14,400 well what can the technology community 654 00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:16,720 provide us well let's take one sub-tiny 655 00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:19,520 bullet within the technology community 656 00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:22,320 let's talk about artificial intelligence 657 00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:24,320 so here's some basic bullets we know the 658 00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:26,320 technology exists today to analyze uap 659 00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:28,240 data almost instantaneously and it's 660 00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:30,640 anywhere in the world this technology is 661 00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:32,720 relatively low cost now relativity is 662 00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:34,559 important i'll explain that in a minute 663 00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:36,320 this technology continues to improve 664 00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:38,080 over time and this technology offers 665 00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:40,159 innumerable advantages over to human 666 00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:41,600 counterpart 667 00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:43,919 so now what i'm about to present to you 668 00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:46,960 is a test case okay this is an example 669 00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:48,640 of how a.i 670 00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:51,039 can be helpful to our discussion yes we 671 00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:52,880 are currently working on this it's been 672 00:22:57,430 --> 00:22:54,799 a lot of work it's not ready for prime 673 00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:57,440 time so i'm going to run through you an 674 00:23:02,149 --> 00:23:00,240 example with using a real real 675 00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:02,159 real video so this summer we've been 676 00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:03,200 waiting for 677 00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:05,120 yeah this summer we got a video and by 678 00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:06,559 the way this is important to test the 679 00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:08,320 veracity and credibility of information 680 00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:10,880 just as as it is important to test to 681 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:11,840 see if 682 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:14,080 if a ufo video or picture is real it's 683 00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:16,000 also important to be able to disprove it 684 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:17,200 because when you're going to elected 685 00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:18,240 officials 686 00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:20,000 you have to be able to tell them with 687 00:23:26,149 --> 00:23:23,600 confidence 99.9 confidence that this is 688 00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:26,159 legit or it's not so we get a video from 689 00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:29,120 a uh military officer in uh i won't say 690 00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:32,000 exactly where in california and he says 691 00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:34,480 look i i saw a black ufo hovering in the 692 00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:36,000 distance 693 00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:38,159 he took a video uh using regular 694 00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:40,240 resolution on a commercially available 695 00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:43,200 cellular telephone uh he is a us army 696 00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:44,320 officer 697 00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:45,520 and i'm going to play it for you real 698 00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:47,200 quick now when you see it it's going to 699 00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,799 be very grainy and you're not going to 700 00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:50,640 see very much 701 00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:52,159 um and 702 00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:53,840 the video itself is actually a little 703 00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:55,279 better quality you had to compress it to 704 00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:56,880 get it on here but that little black 705 00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:58,480 disk back you're looking to say well 706 00:24:01,430 --> 00:23:59,760 that doesn't really look like much of 707 00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:01,440 anything you know even though that the 708 00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:03,200 guy splurged he saw a black disc 709 00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:04,960 hovering in the background 710 00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:06,559 um so 711 00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,559 why is that important well because then 712 00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:10,320 what we can do is let me show you the 713 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:11,279 still 714 00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:12,480 whoa 715 00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:15,279 right this that that people said wait a 716 00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:17,360 minute that looks like a black hovering 717 00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:19,520 disc in the desert you're not you're not 718 00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:21,520 lying holy crap 719 00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:24,000 so let's see what ai can do for us so 720 00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:26,000 you have the ai first look at the 721 00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:27,600 background 722 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:30,320 and the ai immediately identifies three 723 00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:32,080 environmental anomalies not consistent 724 00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:34,480 with a background right so it looks at 725 00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:36,720 these objects and says this is not 726 00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:39,039 consistent with the background however 727 00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:41,120 the image is legitimate the background 728 00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:43,120 has not been manipulated and is 729 00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:44,799 comparing and contrasting color shape 730 00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:47,520 and pixelation okay 731 00:24:51,909 --> 00:24:49,600 and then we ask the ai okay what about 732 00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:51,919 the object itself 733 00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:53,520 now the human eye can't see it but it 734 00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:55,440 identifies minor pixelation anomalies 735 00:25:00,149 --> 00:24:57,520 that are analyzed to be protrusions some 736 00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:00,159 sort of weird thing coming off the side 737 00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:02,880 of this this black disk right 738 00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:04,559 it also determines that the image is 739 00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:05,919 legitimate and it has not been 740 00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:07,919 manipulated and it is not an artifact 741 00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,200 it's a genuine 742 00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:11,679 object on screen 743 00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:13,840 so then you ask okay so regarding the 744 00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:16,480 background what can you tell us well 745 00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,880 okay so the artificial intelligence 746 00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:20,480 comes up and says look there's a 94 747 00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:22,320 percent likelihood that that is the tail 748 00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:24,880 of a c-17 aircraft that you're seeing in 749 00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:27,919 the middle uh 85 certainty that that is 750 00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:30,720 an f-35 lightning that you're looking at 751 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:32,400 and of course they're to the far right 752 00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:33,760 are it looks like the tail of two 753 00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:35,279 aircraft but it doesn't really know what 754 00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:37,039 it is now these pictures are stock 755 00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:39,120 pictures um you know ultimately what 756 00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:40,960 will happen is we'll have the rights to 757 00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:43,840 actually have you know real schematic 758 00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:45,360 hopefully government schematic diagrams 759 00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:47,440 of aircraft that will be able to compare 760 00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:49,200 contrast um 761 00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:51,760 and then when you look at the uh the the 762 00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:53,520 mechanism in the middle here this this 763 00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:56,400 this if you will this this disc it says 764 00:26:01,029 --> 00:25:57,840 there is something for sure coming off 765 00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:01,039 the the the edges of this 766 00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:02,799 of this disc 767 00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,640 so then you ask the 768 00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:06,480 ai okay so in your best guess what are 769 00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:08,240 we looking at 770 00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:10,400 what it appears to be a black disc is in 771 00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,080 fact an olive dark olive green us army 772 00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:16,080 field tent observation tent and the 773 00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:18,240 protrusions coming off the side are 774 00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:21,120 guide wires and what this is more than 775 00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:23,919 likely is a us army tent that has been 776 00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:25,600 set up as observation 777 00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,919 along an airfield to do flight 778 00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:29,200 operations 779 00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:30,320 and so 780 00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:33,520 that is why it is so important that we 781 00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:35,440 invest in these type of capabilities 782 00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:37,600 because not only will it allow us to 783 00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:40,240 identify when a ufo is real but it will 784 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:42,880 also help us identify when it's not it's 785 00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:44,880 equally important that we can do both 786 00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:47,039 fair and objectively 787 00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:49,520 now limitations of ai 788 00:26:52,390 --> 00:26:50,960 you see here to the left near instant 789 00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:52,400 analysis of massive volume of 790 00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:54,240 information obviously more accurate than 791 00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:57,039 human counterparts it doesn't succumb to 792 00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:59,760 human fatigue operates 24 hours a day 793 00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:01,279 seven days a week operate all 794 00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:03,039 classification levels and the more data 795 00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:04,799 the more accurate it becomes and is bias 796 00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:08,159 neutral but like we all know there are 797 00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:11,039 limitations so all ai must be trained 798 00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:12,880 there is a massive upfront time 799 00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:14,640 investment to train it there's also an 800 00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:16,720 initial investment to to build it is 801 00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:17,919 expensive 802 00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:19,840 it requires human oversight and not all 803 00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:22,480 ai cr is created equal right and bad 804 00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:24,880 data can perpetuate poor results so if i 805 00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:27,600 teach the ai to identify 806 00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:29,600 a tent as a disk then it will always 807 00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,240 identify a tent as a disk and last but 808 00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:34,480 not least it lacks human discernment 809 00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:35,279 so 810 00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:37,039 towards the end here i ask everybody the 811 00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,799 same question you know the question your 812 00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:40,240 kid always wants to know in the back of 813 00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:41,600 the car when you're going on a trip are 814 00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:43,039 we there yet 815 00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:45,039 are we there we do we have disclosure 816 00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:46,960 and the answer is 817 00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:49,120 i don't know i'll leave that to you so 818 00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:51,679 with that said let me go back here 819 00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:54,000 and come back to you guys i think it's 820 00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:55,520 here right and let me stop sharing my 821 00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:56,640 screen 822 00:28:01,990 --> 00:27:59,840 all right so um that is a presentation 823 00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:02,000 that kind of shows a little bit about 824 00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,480 the methodology that we've been using um 825 00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:06,799 a little bit of a method to our madness 826 00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:08,480 the points touch points that we have 827 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:11,520 been focusing on and also the artificial 828 00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:13,440 intelligence why it's important 829 00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:15,679 because it is equally important to prove 830 00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:18,480 and disprove we have to be objective the 831 00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:21,039 moment you see that black disc people go 832 00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:22,159 whoa 833 00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:25,200 that's incredible and then you say well 834 00:28:28,950 --> 00:28:26,880 yeah but that's because we want to see 835 00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:28,960 it we want to see a disc right we 836 00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:30,399 we're sit we're looking at something and 837 00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:32,880 we're seeing what we what we want to see 838 00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:34,399 and although it's very tempting we 839 00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:35,520 really really 840 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:37,440 have to be careful to avoid that 841 00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:39,279 temptation um especially if we're going 842 00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:40,880 to be continued to be taken seriously we 843 00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:42,960 have to be our own worst critics if that 844 00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:45,760 makes sense uh absolutely you know i 845 00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,360 think that's the only reason why we have 846 00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:49,679 gotten collectively altogether all of us 847 00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:52,720 as far as we have um at least at least 848 00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:54,240 at least so far 849 00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:56,080 i'll tell you right now that black disc 850 00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:57,120 got me 851 00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,399 initially 852 00:29:01,690 --> 00:29:00,960 we got all of them 853 00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:01,700 really excited too 854 00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,159 [Laughter] 855 00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:06,240 another shout out sean witnesses in new 856 00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:09,120 york uap another 299 super ticket 857 00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:11,039 brother thank you so much man you don't 858 00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:12,320 have to do that you know i love you 859 00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:14,559 anyway man thank you so much 860 00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:15,360 um 861 00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:17,600 lou if it's okay with you i've got a few 862 00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:19,360 questions lined up are you yeah it's 863 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:21,919 five thirty right now my time local time 864 00:29:25,909 --> 00:29:24,320 i've got about uh i can probably do ten 865 00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:25,919 minutes and then i've got to jam 866 00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:27,840 unfortunately it's my 867 00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:30,880 my schedule is not mine um i am actually 868 00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:32,640 really really working for believe it or 869 00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:34,399 not completely understand so i'm going 870 00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:36,159 to skip those first few sorry to 871 00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:38,159 everybody i'm i'm going to jump into 872 00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:40,000 what everybody is probably wanting to 873 00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:42,320 talk about which is james uh lakotsky's 874 00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:45,039 book that came out yesterday um 875 00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,399 can you talk about your interactions 876 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:48,320 with james lickowski james is an amazing 877 00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:49,840 human being he is the guy that i could 878 00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:52,880 never mention um because i i i had a 879 00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:54,399 professional uh 880 00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:56,799 respect for him and a personal respect 881 00:29:59,909 --> 00:29:58,399 that i would never revealed his his 882 00:30:01,990 --> 00:29:59,919 identity until he was ready to reveal 883 00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:02,000 his identity and i kept that secret 884 00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:04,720 until he came out with his book 885 00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:06,320 he's an incredible human being by far 886 00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:07,679 one of the greatest rocket scientists 887 00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:10,000 we've ever had and i'm glad he's finally 888 00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:12,000 being vindicated 889 00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,679 yeah now the thing is with the book as 890 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:15,760 well that it doesn't contain top secret 891 00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,960 sci information yet it seems to um 892 00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:20,640 portray a lot of information that we 893 00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,640 don't know already 894 00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:24,720 how is that hidden somewhere but it's 895 00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:27,440 declassified where's that 896 00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:28,799 he went through a review process he had 897 00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,159 to go through uh from my understanding a 898 00:30:35,269 --> 00:30:32,159 very lengthy review process about 14 899 00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:35,279 months through the pentagon um i i 900 00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:36,720 imagine they probably weren't very happy 901 00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:39,360 initially with with him releasing it um 902 00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:41,039 but you know i can't really comment on 903 00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:42,880 the book because it's not my book he 904 00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:45,200 that book was written uh if you have 905 00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:46,720 specific questions about the book my 906 00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:48,880 recommendation would be to approach him 907 00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:51,440 but he he's an incredible human being 908 00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:53,279 now i understand completely let's just 909 00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:55,279 jump back to the ai 910 00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:57,440 software quickly 911 00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:00,640 with the new um avenue the the direction 912 00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:03,519 is going in with the ai and the data and 913 00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:05,519 everything that may come out of it 914 00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:08,000 are we likely to see 915 00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:10,720 a development in the observables let's 916 00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:13,120 say as far as we have 917 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:15,360 six 918 00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:18,720 could we see that 919 00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:20,960 number jump i sure hope so 920 00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:23,039 yeah i mean that's that's that's that's 921 00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:24,960 the intent right is to to open the 922 00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:26,799 aperture my hope is that we do find 923 00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:28,720 other observables i suspect we probably 924 00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:30,320 will but you don't know what you don't 925 00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,360 know right so you know this is this is 926 00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:35,039 part of that i'm sure some really smart 927 00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:36,159 savvy people are going to get a hole 928 00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:37,600 when they start this ai finally gets 929 00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:38,720 fielded they're going to be like they're 930 00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:40,159 going to find all sorts of creative ways 931 00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:41,200 to use it that we never would have 932 00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:43,200 imagined we're going to say holy smokes 933 00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:44,559 yeah 934 00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:47,120 no that's great thank you um and we saw 935 00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:49,760 the interview on um mystery wire with 936 00:31:52,149 --> 00:31:51,120 tom kelleher 937 00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,159 and and 938 00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:54,320 another good man colin is is an 939 00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:55,679 incredible human being as well he's done 940 00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:58,320 a lot for for this country we owe him a 941 00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:00,960 great deal of gratitude for sure 942 00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:03,519 absolutely i completely agree i've been 943 00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:05,440 following his work for quite some years 944 00:32:09,230 --> 00:32:07,279 but um he actually talked about a case 945 00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:09,240 which involves some um 946 00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:10,320 [Music] 947 00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:11,440 a public 948 00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:13,360 encounter with a father and daughter 949 00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:15,200 with three orbs that actually entered a 950 00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:16,159 vehicle 951 00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:17,840 um passed through 952 00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:19,600 the father's shoulder we're talking 953 00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:21,120 about three orbs of 954 00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:22,880 baseball size is that something that you 955 00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:24,880 encountered through your studies in atip 956 00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:26,240 that you can correlate to what was 957 00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:27,840 studied in or 958 00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:29,120 you know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna 959 00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:31,039 talk about asap um i've refrained from 960 00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:32,240 that uh 961 00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:34,320 since the beginning it's it's it's not 962 00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:36,640 my place uh i i can't speak from a 963 00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:38,640 position of authority 964 00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:42,000 um or expertise in asap i've made that 965 00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:43,919 very clear since day one 966 00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:46,240 i know people are curious 967 00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:48,399 um i'm curious but 968 00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:50,799 but it's not my area of expertise and it 969 00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:51,919 would be 970 00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:54,640 it wouldn't be wise for me to comment 971 00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:57,279 on on that that aspect 972 00:33:01,990 --> 00:33:00,080 i understand completely um 973 00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:02,000 one thing that has come up is one little 974 00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:04,480 small sentence about remote viewing and 975 00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:06,799 i'm not gonna actually ask you to 976 00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:08,640 comment on this statement but this is 977 00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:10,000 something i've asked you about in the 978 00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,519 past that you 979 00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:13,440 didn't want to extrapolate on and this 980 00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:18,870 i'm not going to go there 981 00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:20,960 lou i think 982 00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:22,799 you know this i'm writing saying this 983 00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,399 that it's not part of the discussion 984 00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:26,320 that we need to be having right now 985 00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:28,640 um well it's it's it's first of all it's 986 00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:30,559 it's 987 00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:32,880 book 988 00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:33,600 yeah 989 00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:35,360 and if if somebody wants to ask 990 00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:36,720 questions about it they need to ask that 991 00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:38,080 person 992 00:33:42,470 --> 00:33:39,360 you know i've done a lot of things for 993 00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:42,480 my country this most of my my my 994 00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:44,399 background in my professional 995 00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:46,399 uh experience 996 00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:49,360 is is has not been open to the public 997 00:33:52,630 --> 00:33:50,880 the only part of my career that's ever 998 00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,640 been opened to public is really my part 999 00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:54,320 concerning uaps 1000 00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:57,440 um and there's a reason for that um 1001 00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:58,480 you know i 1002 00:34:02,070 --> 00:33:59,679 i'm not gonna 1003 00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:02,080 confirm or deny or or elaborate one way 1004 00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:04,159 or the other what some of my other 1005 00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:06,720 duties responsibilities are or were or 1006 00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:07,519 or 1007 00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:10,560 that's i'm not sure it's relevant to the 1008 00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:12,320 conversation to be honest with you we've 1009 00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:15,040 been i think very successful focusing on 1010 00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:16,399 on the uap 1011 00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:17,520 um 1012 00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:20,399 effort and i think we need to at least 1013 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,480 from my perspective that's where that's 1014 00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:24,240 where i need to remain focused 1015 00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:26,639 i completely understand this is an uh 1016 00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,240 this conversation has been planned for a 1017 00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:30,720 few weeks with the drop of the book 1018 00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:32,159 yesterday my 1019 00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,520 inbox exploded with 1020 00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:37,520 remote viewing this remote viewing that 1021 00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:38,639 and you know 1022 00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:40,399 we touched upon this a while back and i 1023 00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:42,399 understand you're positioned 1024 00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:44,000 um so i just wanted to put this out 1025 00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:45,280 there for everyone that i'm not going to 1026 00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:47,440 push that narrative um 1027 00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:49,119 let's let's finish off on a question 1028 00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:51,280 that i really have got 1029 00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:53,520 for months and months and months 1030 00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:54,720 what 1031 00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:55,760 books 1032 00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:58,800 relating to ufos would you recommend 1033 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:00,960 anything no don't ask me that you know i 1034 00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:02,880 hate doing that i don't want to endorse 1035 00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:05,359 a product i don't want to is this high 1036 00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:07,520 mistake once before apparently those 1037 00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:09,680 books that what i recommended went on 1038 00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:11,920 amazon became like it was like a six 1039 00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:13,359 dollar book and one of going for like 1040 00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:15,200 500 1041 00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:17,280 for a book and i'm like oh my god you 1042 00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:19,040 know i i didn't mean to do that i just 1043 00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:20,480 people asked me a question i gave him an 1044 00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:22,240 honest answer and all of a sudden you 1045 00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:24,000 know now people are like that book's 1046 00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:26,640 like 500 bucks i'm like oh god no well i 1047 00:35:29,829 --> 00:35:28,000 hope this doesn't affect the price but 1048 00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:29,839 i'll i'll recommend graeme rendell's 1049 00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:33,040 book on the foo fight it's 1940 to 1945. 1050 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:35,200 i will say i have a copy of it and i 1051 00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:38,480 will say that that i am i am uh i am 1052 00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:42,160 it is uh incredible it i am um 1053 00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:44,560 i am reading it uh but i have to be 1054 00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:47,200 really careful of any endorsing anything 1055 00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:49,520 man you know i didn't i understand with 1056 00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:51,520 of course our our friend in in uh 1057 00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:53,440 australia as well because i really like 1058 00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:54,560 oh yeah 1059 00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,520 you know 1060 00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:57,359 man i got beat up so bad for doing that 1061 00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:59,280 people say yeah oh yeah because they 1062 00:36:01,510 --> 00:36:00,640 think i was getting a kickback right and 1063 00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:01,520 i'm like 1064 00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:03,920 no i'm not getting paid 1065 00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:05,760 you know for for some reason everybody 1066 00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:06,960 happens to think something it's always 1067 00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:09,280 about money i'm like well you know 1068 00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:11,680 it's not i think i saw once um recently 1069 00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:12,880 on social media i was making all sorts 1070 00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:14,400 of money with the history channel i'm 1071 00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:16,320 like dude i mean enough with two years 1072 00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:19,200 worth of work to buy a fancy lawnmower 1073 00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,160 so 1074 00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,640 get over it you know i i made 1075 00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:24,400 substantially less than minimum wage in 1076 00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:26,560 fact it probably if if i wanted to i 1077 00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:28,160 could probably have a lawsuit for like 1078 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:30,400 slave labor because i put two years of 1079 00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:33,119 my life into something and got paid 1080 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:35,119 peanuts literally i mean and i had to 1081 00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:36,480 take time off for work to do it so i 1082 00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:37,920 actually lost 1083 00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:39,119 money 1084 00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:41,040 doing something that was part of the the 1085 00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:42,960 five pillars there right so that was the 1086 00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:43,680 sure 1087 00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:46,480 five that was part of of of engagement 1088 00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:49,040 you know to to to everybody else public 1089 00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:51,040 engagement that's why that's why chris 1090 00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:52,320 and i did it 1091 00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:54,960 understandable listen lou i will just 1092 00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:56,800 one last question 1093 00:37:01,270 --> 00:36:58,400 what's next for you 1094 00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:01,280 as we see out the end of 2021 in jumping 1095 00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:08,150 well it kind of gave you a sneak peek 1096 00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:10,960 already i thought uh yeah 1097 00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:13,200 kind of you know um 1098 00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:15,839 so when do we expect the drop then and 1099 00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:18,079 am i right saying this is going to be 1100 00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:19,839 app based 1101 00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:21,599 um you know it's going to be multi-base 1102 00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:23,040 it's good there's there's an app but 1103 00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:24,480 there's also a desktop and there's going 1104 00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,280 to be 1105 00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:27,040 other pieces to this i mean it's been 1106 00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:29,920 has not been easy um you know 1107 00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:32,160 my intent is to provide it allow this 1108 00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:33,839 capability to go free to anybody who 1109 00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:35,680 wants it and then you know if you want 1110 00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:37,359 to use it for some very very specific 1111 00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:39,119 stuff where it actually is costing us a 1112 00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:40,960 hell of a lot of money then maybe you 1113 00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,400 know somebody might want to do a 1114 00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:44,720 subscription but it's not necessary you 1115 00:37:48,069 --> 00:37:46,720 don't have to do that you know it's it's 1116 00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:48,079 going to be available our intent is to 1117 00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:49,520 allow you know 1118 00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,119 a version of it free for anybody who 1119 00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:53,520 wants to use it um you know but that 1120 00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:56,320 costs money um and you know nobody's 1121 00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:57,839 donating 1122 00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,680 to this it's you know 1123 00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:01,200 people say well where is it i want it 1124 00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:03,119 well yeah sure but you know 1125 00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:05,440 it it ain't cheap and it's been a lot of 1126 00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:07,599 us you know are doing this from from you 1127 00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:09,760 know part of from a place in our heart 1128 00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:11,839 where we want to contribute but 1129 00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:13,599 you know i was like guys you know you 1130 00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:15,920 ain't paying for it so you know you want 1131 00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,800 to come around faster well you know 1132 00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:20,640 we're trying our best you know 1133 00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:22,400 absolutely man 1134 00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:24,880 i appreciate it quick shout out to lara 1135 00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:26,240 thank you so much 1136 00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:28,000 for the five dollars i think i've got 1137 00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:29,040 one more 1138 00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:30,880 tyler at contact tour thank you for the 1139 00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:32,480 ten dollars so much 1140 00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:33,599 lou 1141 00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:34,960 this has been 1142 00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:37,040 amazing eye opening i'm so blessed that 1143 00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:39,119 you were the i was the first for you to 1144 00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:41,119 show this presentation it means i did it 1145 00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:43,200 at a forum uh but it wasn't really 1146 00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:44,960 public it was invitation only i did it 1147 00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:47,119 in europe uh it has not been publicly 1148 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:48,960 provided uh it has been provided to some 1149 00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:50,880 other very senior people like i said you 1150 00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:52,160 are really the first that this has been 1151 00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:54,000 publicly provided to you 1152 00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:57,200 that means a lot it means a lot and um 1153 00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:58,560 if you could just hang about for a 1154 00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:00,400 minute after we have this conversation 1155 00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:02,720 a little debrief because we are meeting 1156 00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:04,480 myself and you are meeting in london in 1157 00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:06,160 a couple of weeks and 1158 00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:08,400 we won't say any more about that but 1159 00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:09,760 that could be fun 1160 00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,880 everybody 1161 00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:12,720 we'll see if something comes out of that 1162 00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:14,079 a little video a little interview or 1163 00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:16,160 something but uh cuban in the uk there's 1164 00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:17,920 got to be a joke 1165 00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:26,230 i'm ready man i'll tell you 1166 00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:29,119 i love love love the uk if anybody has 1167 00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:31,440 ever wanted to go anywhere in the world 1168 00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:32,960 if you've never been to westminster 1169 00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:34,400 abbey 1170 00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:37,920 you will absolutely be in tears 1171 00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:40,480 it is it is one of the most profoundly 1172 00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:45,030 places i've ever been it's ju it's 1173 00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:46,800 almost overwhelming and when you see the 1174 00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:47,920 history 1175 00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:50,400 uh of uk there and all these people that 1176 00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,240 have been buried there and some of the 1177 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:54,160 tombs and how ornate and the love that 1178 00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:56,560 was put in behind some of those it's 1179 00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:58,800 just breathtaking it's it's absolutely 1180 00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,160 incredible 1181 00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,160 it is we take it for granted sometimes 1182 00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:04,400 here in the uk um 1183 00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:06,800 finally laura sosa thank you for that 1184 00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:08,160 super sticker 1185 00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:09,599 lou i'm not going to keep you any longer 1186 00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:11,599 man well i don't want to keep you guys i 1187 00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:13,839 appreciate it yeah i gotta go uh but i 1188 00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:15,440 know it's you know almost one o'clock 1189 00:40:19,829 --> 00:40:17,760 for you all over there i apologize 1190 00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:19,839 don't you dare apologize man it's been a 1191 00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:22,079 pleasure it's it's it's always good to 1192 00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:23,520 speak to you man you've always given me 1193 00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,119 the time of day and 1194 00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:27,440 yeah it means the world so thank you so 1195 00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:29,119 much man great well i'm sure people are 1196 00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:30,480 going to poke holes in that briefing i 1197 00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:31,760 gave you you know there's always people 1198 00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:32,960 let's go 1199 00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:34,720 no matter what i pledge what i try to do 1200 00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:37,040 they were like oh you 1201 00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:37,839 don't like that you know 1202 00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:38,720 so 1203 00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:41,920 man like we got you man it's all good 1204 00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,720 guys thank you to everyone 1205 00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:46,800 so much we appreciate you love you so 1206 00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:48,720 much until the next time